Comments on: Tremendous Sadness http://www.vincenthorn.com/2005/03/02/tremendous-sadness/ Buddhist Geek, Teacher, Explorer Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:43:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Vince http://www.vincenthorn.com/2005/03/02/tremendous-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-198 Vince Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:33:00 +0000 http://www.vincenthorn.com/?p=423#comment-198 :-D Yeah, that seems to be the biggest challenge, not the feeling it necessarily, but chance to feel it in a safe environment. I don't think there is one to be honest, and I've had these sort of cathartic breakdowns on the cushion, not because I felt safe, but because at that point I had no choice. Thanks to both of you for your heart-felt sincerity! :-D Yeah, that seems to be the biggest challenge, not the feeling it necessarily, but chance to feel it in a safe environment. I don’t think there is one to be honest, and I’ve had these sort of cathartic breakdowns on the cushion, not because I felt safe, but because at that point I had no choice. Thanks to both of you for your heart-felt sincerity!

]]> By: GKW http://www.vincenthorn.com/2005/03/02/tremendous-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-197 GKW Tue, 08 Mar 2005 06:39:00 +0000 http://www.vincenthorn.com/?p=423#comment-197 Amen. I know the hinterlands of that realm, but I keep skirting the edges. I keep holding back at the edge, seeing the chasm and refusing to jump. I break down, certainly; but I know the unhinging that I'm skillfully avoiding. It'd be nothing short of screaming, convulsing, and crying like a madwoman; no senses, no reason, no mind, just grief streaming through. ...And I just don't think there's space for that in a Naropa class, y'know? Or on retreat, or any place I've been on a cushion when it begins to ebb inward like the tide against the high breakers. I do release/experience some of the pain in a contained sort of way, but I still hold back from what would appear to be, I'm certain, a complete and total freak-out. I feel I'd actually be really capable of being there with it, and find myself also in the abode of the vast serene awareness while simultaneously thrashing...but I'd totally scare my meditation group. Amen. I know the hinterlands of that realm, but I keep skirting the edges. I keep holding back at the edge, seeing the chasm and refusing to jump. I break down, certainly; but I know the unhinging that I’m skillfully avoiding. It’d be nothing short of screaming, convulsing, and crying like a madwoman; no senses, no reason, no mind, just grief streaming through.

…And I just don’t think there’s space for that in a Naropa class, y’know? Or on retreat, or any place I’ve been on a cushion when it begins to ebb inward like the tide against the high breakers. I do release/experience some of the pain in a contained sort of way, but I still hold back from what would appear to be, I’m certain, a complete and total freak-out. I feel I’d actually be really capable of being there with it, and find myself also in the abode of the vast serene awareness while simultaneously thrashing…but I’d totally scare my meditation group.

]]> By: jc (ebuddha) http://www.vincenthorn.com/2005/03/02/tremendous-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-196 jc (ebuddha) Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:59:00 +0000 http://www.vincenthorn.com/?p=423#comment-196 I know this space. You aren't only dealing with one's own sadness, but also levels that are universal. As long as you don't drown in it, the courageous choice is to be softened inside by the sadness, and meet the world with this exposed sensitivity and compassion, along with your strength. I feel you, brother. I feel you. I know this space. You aren’t only dealing with one’s own sadness, but also levels that are universal. As long as you don’t drown in it, the courageous choice is to be softened inside by the sadness, and meet the world with this exposed sensitivity and compassion, along with your strength.

I feel you, brother. I feel you.

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