Maybe saying that Kurzweil’s Sixth Epoch, which has been compared to Telheird’s Omega point…which is very close to Aurobindo’s Supramental point…with the Supramental physical beings of light? Ta-da, light people.

Relevant, or pulled too far out of the old chute?

-Patrick

Anyway, yeah. You’re probably right. Ken probably does understand Kurzweil’s position, but then again if he doesn’t I might allow him that “blind spot.”

Thanks for the link to that article. I prefer Ken’s utopia over Kurzweil’s anyday. Hmm, either advanced consciousness and increasing care and compassion or super intelligence saturating the entire universe at light speed (or higher if we can manage). Actually I take that back, they’re both pretty cool!

here is Ken’s version of singularity. i think

I don’t think our biological selves will be able maintain consciousness of changes happening as the rate increases without augmentation. As ebuddha mentions, we can’t even keep up with it now. There are so many things happening so fast, it’s nearly impossible to maintain a general awareness of what’s happening, let alone grasp things at any depth.

For example, I get Kurtzweil’s newsletter, and at least once a week some amazing advance happens that I can barely fathom. Yesterday, this was the top headline: “Magnetic vortices could store thousands of movies per square inch.” WTF!

The only way “consciousness” can keep up is when(if) we’re truly able to use computer processing power and memory to directly augment the human brain.

If I understand the science right, the way humans perceive time is somewhat unique to our organism and only a limited view of our universe.

So all this is to say that I think you’re right, Vince. As “human’s transcend biology,” we will be aware of finer and finer slices of time, while while at the same “time” becoming more aware of the longer perspective, able to see and predict the effect of glaciers moving, wind and water current changing, stars growing and dying.

We already have knowledge of some of this stuff, but only scientists studying these things maintain consciousness of it for longer than it takes to read a magazine article.

The singularity should allow us, or the AI we create, to hold all of these perspectives with and ever-growing awareness of the finest slices of what is and the vast expanse of what will be.

In fact, his penultimate vision of where this is all heading is that we’ll be spreading advanced computational ability throughout the universe, harnessing all of matter and energy to further our computational capacity, until we saturate the entire universe with computation. Seems to me that this is his personal vision, if anything.

Heck, I can’t even keep up with my RSS reader, much less anything else…

Because each successive generation is “bigger, faster, smarter, stronger”,

My problem with Kurzweil has always been the equating of the increase in one spectrum – the information revolution – as being representative of what happens in the world, society, as a whole.

While clearly there is a “trickle down effect” (ugh, hate to use that phrase…), the application of the exponential increase in information applied to one area only – and improves other areas of life much more slowly (my facetious example being – where the eff’ is my flying car??)

However, I must say, I have only read summations of Kurweil’s book, not the whole thing yet (see?? I can’t keep up!!)

On a different note – good pointing out of Wilber’s incorrect summations – as we have learned over the last couple of years, Wilber’s incorrect generalizations of others’ work is something to stay on top of.